Gong Li Interviewed – ‘Curse of the Golden Flower’
12/20/2006
Posted by Frosty

It’s
always a little difficult to do an interview when there is a translator in the
room. Not only due to the language barrier, but due to spending half your time
waiting for the translator to repeat your question back to the person you’re
interviewing. So if you’re given twenty minutes, it’s really more like ten.
Thankfully
Gong Li had plenty of time to talk about her newest work which is about to open
here in the states, Curse of the Golden
Flower.
Curse is not your typical Asian export.
Most of the Asian films that appear stateside are usually more action oriented,
and while this film has plenty of that, it’s more focused on the inner workings
of an imperial family and what’s really going on behind the scenes. Chow Yun
Fat plays the Emperor and Gong Li plays his wife, the Empress.
The film
spends a great deal of time showing things that we normally don’t get to see in
an “action film” like how the emperors palace really worked and something which
I found fascinating to view - the unbelievable opulence that the rulers had all
around them in their daily lives. The film really does an amazing job of
capturing the lifestyle of the leaders in the Tang Dynasty of 10th
Century China.
And while I could go on and on about the visuals and costumes I would just
recommend you watch the trailer so you can see what I’m talking about. They’re
on the level of Lord of the Rings.
While the interview was done in roundtable form, there were only four of us and
everyone asked great questions.
While I
normally recommend downloading the audio of an interview, in this case you
might want to just read the transcript as I didn’t cut out the Chinese that is
spoken back and forth. But if you can speak Chinese, you’ll really love the
download. If you want to listen to Gong Li then click here, otherwise here is
the interview.
And
remember Curse of the Golden Flower
opens this Friday.

The
elegance of the environment of this film is overpowering to a viewer. I realize when you’re making a movie, its
illusion, but was there a sense that you were in all of that elegant
surrounding that you could actually feel like the Empress?
Yes, definitely I felt like an Empress
in charge of everything. The whole country all the people, everything belonged
to me as the Empress. This was a result
of the setting and the sets and everything put together as well as the effort
that the director did put in to make it all happen.
What
about the clothing? It looks so heavy
and yet at the same time it's very revealing.
A lot of cleavage with that kind of stuff. What was it like to walk
around like that?
Yes, definitely. That kind of costume
was very carefully crafted. It was all hand-made with all sorts of pieces and
extra fabric and design details, so it was very heavy to wear. But it's a kind interesting
effect because like you said the inner layers were very tight and very
constraining and yet the outside layers were very full and flowing and just
kind of free and easy. It was a very beautiful
effect. This was certainly the effect that was true to the Tung Dynasty style
dress back 1,000 years ago.
What
about working again with director Zhang Yimou? I suppose it's been 10 years
since you've worked together. Was it like getting back on a bike? Was it easy to jump right back in? How have you changed as an actress and how
has he changed as a director?
Well, it doesn't feel like that
much time has passed. It felt like just a couple of years almost like yesterday
since the last time we worked together.
Then of course when we thought about it we said the last time I made a
film with Zhang Yimou was about 10 years ago.
It seems so far away. But in fact
this time getting back together to work with him was a great experience. We
felt very comfortable immediately. We had a very fine rapport working with each
other. A lot of things were easy to communicate. So it really worked out very nicely.
I'm
curious about the sets and how extravagant and everything that was involved
with the locations. How is that as an
actor working in those kinds of environments? Could you
talk a little bit about...is it easier for you?
Yes, it's true. That kind of set,
although it was very opulent, everything is colorful, brightly colored
especially in gold with these huge columns and everything. At the same time we felt a lot of pressures
almost kind of oppressively luxurious environment. So sometimes you feel stifled
and felt like I have to go outside and take a walk, but of course if you did
that you'd discover yourself in the middle of the palace even if it's an open
space there's still a big palace with the same kind of opulence and oppressive
atmosphere attached to it. So I think it
was very suitable for this story and for the kind of situation this Empress was
in.
Emotion was
so heightened in the film. I'm just
wondering is it a more difficult role to perform when the emotions are so high? Yes, this is one of the challenges
that interested me about accepting this role is the fact it's a very concentrated
story. The whole thing takes place in a small space in about 48 hours of story
time so this means that the kind of mood and the emotions are often very intense
and they're concentrated, crystallized and you have to find a way to really be
on 100% or even more each time to really express things in a very intense
form. It's kind of like a bull fight
where they fight the bull, they stir up the bull and excite the bull until the
bull is going crazy and it's kind of that feeling when you're playing this
role. Each scene is more and more like that and by the end you think maybe
you're going to go crazy, too.
Perhaps
in relation to that, you probably heard the story described as Shakespearian,
that sort of very big drama involving people going after power. One thought
that comes to my mind when I hear about that description is things don't
change. Shakespeare is so powerful because the stories we keep repeating, we
keep repeating those stories. What does this story of this royal family 1,000
years ago say to people today? What is its
relevance?
Well, as an example or maybe even
as a kind of example the story of how people are hungry for power, even people
who already have a lot of power. Once you get power you want more and more, so
they'll do anything and they end up doing all sorts of bad things. This is something that I think anybody can understand.
How do
you feel about...you were there in the beginning of the 5th generation of filmmakers
after Mao. How are you with the
direction of Chinese cinema since then?
I know in
the 80's we saw stories that seemed to take place more in the 20th century,
more recent times. In the past 10 years it seems exclusively traditional
Chinese. Is that a creative choice? Is there pressure from the market? Pressure from the people who finance movies
in China
to move in that direction?
I think the one thing that been
happening is that the directors in China now are paying more attention
to commercial considerations. They think about things like box office appeal
and what kind of audiences might be interested in seeing what kinds of films. I think this can be a good thing in bringing
the films closer to the audiences. On
the other hand, it could be a bad thing in that some directors may be setting
aside things they really want to do. They might be afraid that some audiences
may not want to see this or be able to understand such things. So for example, recently
a lot of people are getting back into martial arts films. It seems like quite a trend. Almost like if
you don't make a martial arts film you're going against the trend. I, myself, don't think that's such a great
idea. So with martial arts films you think the stories are probably set in some
historical past but they don't have guns or whatever to fight with, and so in
terms of the regulation system in China you have to have the script approved
first, so if you set the story in the historical past it might actually be
easier to get the script approved in advance. Just go ahead and make the film. So
it actually serves this purpose as well as the other purpose of maybe producing
a film that will be appealing internationally because it’s a martial arts
film. I think it's not such a good thing
after all.
I'm just
curious. You experienced a cultural
revolution even though you were a child at the time. Two questions. One, what
are your recollections of that period and two, will there be a great Chinese
epic surrounding cultural evolution or is it too early for that? Is that something you can get past the
approval board?
At the time, of course, I just
started elementary school so I didn't really understand much about big things
like the Cultural Revolution. To me it
was just, it just so happened I didn't have to go to school because at that
time the whole education system stopped. It seemed like a great time, we had a
lot of fun, didn't have to go to class or anything. Eventually things started up
again and back to school. In the end it
didn't seem like such a great thing. We realized it was a bad thing for education
to stop and the whole event of the Cultural Revolution. In so far as the 2nd question
goes making a film about the Cultural Revolution, right now it may be difficult
to get the script approved.
Do you
enjoy the anonymity that goes along with being in America?
She doesn't really care; she just
goes out on the street at home. 
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