Clive Owen Interviewed – ‘Children of Men’
12/28/2006
Posted by Frosty
As I wrote in my intro to the Alfonso
Cuaron interview the other day, I loved Children of Men. Loved. While
I haven’t seen all the films of 2006, Children of Men is easily in my top five.
I walked into the screening not
knowing much about the story, and I hadn’t seen a trailer. I knew something
about it taking place in the future, and the human race could no longer have
children.
So due to my ignorance, the movie
hit me like a ton of bricks. Unlike a lot of films that you can predict points
a, b and c while you are watching, Children of Men moves around in its
own way, and all the credit needs to be give to Alfonso Cuaron, the director of
this masterpiece.
It's interesting talking to friends
about this film. Most have heard about it, and a few are really excited to see
it. But I get the vibe that most people really don’t know how amazing this film
is. And I really think this is going to be one of those films that becomes a
huge cult classic, something that years from now people will re-watch and
wonder why it never caught on when it first came out.
And that would be a shame. This is
a film that demands to be seen on the big screen. This is a film that is
composed in such a way that nothing is wasted, everything you see was
put there on purpose.
Now here is an unusual opening to
an interview that I want you all to read.
Don’t.
At least not yet.
I’m telling you to not read this
until you’ve seen the film. Not only due to the spoilers, but due to the
respect the film deserves. I think Children of Men will be infinitely
more powerful if you don’t know what to expect and if you read this, there is no
way to avoid knowing too much. Imagine if you read a big interview with Harrison Ford where he discuses all the big plot points of Blade Runner and then you saw it, wouldn’t that take away some of the
enjoyment?
When you decide to read the
interview you can do it two ways. First is to just read it. The second way is
to listen to it which you can do by clicking here.
The junket was held in the middle
of November and just like most Universal press events, it was a press
conference. But unlike most, all the questions were good and Clive Owen gave a
lot of great answers.
Children of Men has just opened in select cities
and it will be expanding in the coming weeks. I cannot say enough how good this
movie is. See it, you won’t regret it.
And if you want to read Brian
Orndorf’s review of the film you can do it here.

Question:
Clive, you’ve been a part of several films with really extraordinary technical
processes. The green screen of Sin
City and the single takes
of this. How aware are you of that process when you’re doing these movies?
Clive Owen: Yeah, hugely aware. I
mean it’s one of the elements of making movies that I actually really enjoy. I
love the collaboration of doing shots like those in Children of Men because
there’s something about filmmaking that, you know, if it was just about putting
great directors, great scripts, and great actors together and you’re guaranteed
a great film, that’s one thing, but that isn’t the case. There aren’t any rules
and there’s something sort of elusive that’s out of any individual’s control
that makes a film work or not work and when you’re doing one of those hugely
ambitious long sequences of one shot, it’s a genuine collaboration. It’s
everybody pulling together to try and make something happen and the
responsibility is a collective one. And the strongest memory from the movie was
how much, how closely I had to work with the [camera] operator on those
sequences because we would rehearse for a very, very long time and it was very
painstaking and specific, but then when we come to shoot it, it has to feel
like we’re catching it on the run. You’ve got to feel like you’re in the thick
of it. And it’s all about pacing. If you hold a beat a bit too long, it will
suddenly feel a bit manipulative like he’s held there so we see the tank just
over his right shoulder so we work very, very specifically about what we want
to see and what we want to catch. And then when we go for it, we’ve got to
shape that up and keep an energy that is much looser than that. And they’re
very adrenalized those sequences because there’s huge resets. It’s like, you
know, some of those big ones are four, five-hour resets to try and go again for
a take like that. So everybody is very adrenalized gearing up to go in for one
of those takes and there’s something just a bit magical. I mean I think that technically
some of this film is pretty staggering. The operator…most of the film is hand
held and the operator did a really incredible job, I think.
When you
were doing those long single takes, was the direction from Alfonso to just kind
of keep going in case you stumbled or something happened?
Not specifically, no. Somebody’s
there to abort if something early on goes wrong. There’s no point in going on
and carrying on and blowing up the side of that building if very early on
there’s something that is obviously amiss. No, it was really about rehearsing
very, very thoroughly and then it was very cool of Alfonso because he then – sort
of the pacing and everything – he then hands the trust over to George and I
that we’re going to sort of do that thing. And the take… one of the takes of
the big sequence at the end going through the thing, there was a unanimous
sense at the end of that one that that was the one. Alfonso was then very
worried because the blood spattered on the camera and Chivo and Emmanuel
Lubezki said, ‘But that’s brilliant. That’s brilliant.’ But collectively at the
end of that take, there was a sense – George, I, everybody – like that was it,
we nailed that one. And Alfonso decided in the end we’re going with it because
it worked. That was the best take.
Do you
remember which take that was?
Yeah. Yup. Which number it was?
Which
number it was.
I think on that sequence it was
about the third one.
Having
Clare as a complete newcomer to this, what was it that you talked to her about
getting ready for the process of working with Alfonso and working with such a
veteran cast of actors and was there something specifically that she came to
you about and asked you?
No. You know, she’s a very
talented and lovely actress and it’s just really about making sure that she
feels comfortable in that environment. She hasn’t done that many films and it’s
a big film and it’s an ambitious film and it was just really… You don’t have to
talk about it, but it’s just everybody’s very aware of making her feel
confident and comfortable. I mean you know it’s a given that actors do their
best work when they’re confident. If the confidence goes, the work’s not going
to be as good so you’re just constantly trying to create an environment where
people feel comfortable and confident to do their thing. But she was lovely to work with. It was great
casting. You know, I think Alfonso is a very sort of pure visionary director
and he just cast the best person for the part.
Could you
describe these feelings of working with Alfonso and what qualities he brings as
a director? What’s unique?
I was and now am an even bigger,
huge fan of Alfonso’s. He’s very, very high on my ‘directors I’d love to work
with’ list and even some of his films that were maybe not as commercially
successful I think are very special. He’s a highly original, talented … huge
talent. And when he first sent me the script, I wasn’t sure about the part. I
didn’t quite know why he wanted me to do it. It’s a highly unusual lead part.
If you look at that character, he’s in every scene but it’s very unusual traits
that he’s got. It’s not the kind of part where you can sort of do your thing as
an actor in a way. It’s about sacrificing yourself to Alfonso’s vision and not
getting in the way of it which seems to me more important than doing any
acting. But I went and I met him and I talked to him and I found him hugely
exciting and he told me his whole vision of the film and his take on the movie
and then I came on board and the first thing he said is, ‘This is now the bit I
love. I love working with actors. I love the collaboration of that. We’re going
to do this movie together and he was very true to his word. I signed on well in
advance of the movie. I was shooting other stuff but we kept in constant
contact. I then, as soon as I got a break, went and spent a few weeks with him
in New York
just holed up in a hotel room talking about the movie, talking about Theo. The
collaboration continued throughout. It was a genuine, really brilliant
collaboration through the whole movie. He kept me completely in the loop in all
the post production. He sent me various cuts and edits and there was endless
conversations and still now as we’re taking the film out there and sort of
putting it out there, it still feels like that. So it’s been a very, very
special collaboration and I do genuinely think he’s a very rare and unique
talent. The thing about his movies is they are whole visions. They’re … He
doesn’t do that thing of pandering to what he thinks the commercial market
wants. He makes his movies. He has a very singular vision and he goes out there
and does that. I think he’s very special.
Did you
know the P.D. James novel before you came into this? And do you think there is
a possibility for kind of a totalitarian society which the book and film
envisage could happen in the U.K.
down the road?
I didn’t know the book and I read
it afterwards. It’s obviously like whenever you do an adaptation of a book, that
was the starting [point] and the huge inspiration for the movie but then Alfonso
had a lot of other things he wanted to discuss. Alfonso, I think, with this
movie has been very clever. He’s actually using a film set 30 years in the
future as an excuse to talk about present worries, concerns, and fears that we
all have. It’s an incredibly relevant vision of the future because he’s really
looking ahead and saying ‘if we’re not careful, this is where things could be
going.’ And I don’t think the film is that futuristic. If you look at the
opening scene, my character walks into a café, walks outside, and a bomb goes
off. The beginning of the movie. That’s the world we’re in. That’s not
futuristic, you know. That’s incredibly relevant. And I think it’s not that …
it isn’t that farfetched. There are endless images in this movie that we’ve
seen that we are sort of already familiar with and he’s obviously taken it
further than the real thing but I just don’t think it’s…it’s not a fantasy.
Can you
tell me how the scene of the child’s birth was done? Did you actually have a
baby there or was it a doll?
There were a number of sequences
in this where Alfonso was hugely ambitious. You know, we’ve talked about the
long one-shot deals. Now when you’re rehearsing and setting one of those up all
day long and the light goes and you haven’t turned the camera over and you’ve
got to come back and carry on tomorrow, you can imagine the phone calls that
fly around that evening with the studio going, ‘What is he doing? We haven’t
turned over?’ And he had that sort of a tack on certain sequences and the child
birth was one of those because we get there and he says, ‘I want to do it in
one -- the whole sequence -- from the minute we come into that room to the baby
being born.’ His sort of objective about
this movie is to keep trying to viscerally put you in the action and the best
way of doing that is to keep it as much real time as possible and to not cut
away and not do this sort of manipulative, single, single, where you feel you
know the sort of territory you’re in – the movie territory. He wanted to put
you into the thick of it so that scene was about just trying to viscerally
connect with the audience. That was the thing. Now I was present at the birth
of both of my two children so I had those things to draw on. I was in the thick
of it both times and I remember feeling a bit like Theo does in the movie. The
strongest thing that I remember from that day was towards the end of the shoot
it was a very, very long day and we went well into the evening because it was
only one take and we had to make sure we had it. And Alfonso goes, ‘We’ve got
to just try one more.’ And we would just keep going and keep going and we went,
you know, the day turned into a night shoot as well.
So was
that a doll or a baby?
No, there was an animatronic baby
and some CGI stuff was done afterwards. But again it was…you’ve got all the
camera work to consider, you’ve got the pacing of the scene because ultimately… It’s very special when a director gives actors
the responsibility of a scene of that length because we have to pace it in some
way. We are dictating the pace, we have to keep the scene alive and it puts a
lot of responsibility on the actors. But also technically it was very demanding
for the operator again because the whole movement of the camera at the very end
when the baby arrives it’s incredibly specific where that camera has to settle
and sit so again it was one of those genuine collaborations where everybody was coming together and trying to achieve
something pretty extraordinary.
I saw you
as what I would call almost a reluctant hero, your character, an average man
improbably thrown into an extraordinary situation. One of the things that
struck me, I want to ask you, being barefoot. I mean it was just that whole
sense of immediacy. Were you really barefoot most of that time running?
For some of it. I mean it’s a
highly unusual lead character for a movie of this size really because the first
half of the movie the guy doesn’t even want to be there. The guy’s dragged into
the movie. He’s very reluctant. It’s very unusual to play a lead character that
is apathetic, cynical, depressed, drunk, sad really, overwhelming sadness was
the thing. Now they are unusual traits. That’s not usually the sort of lead
character of a movie and eventually he does become engaged. It’s about the last
… Theo sort of embodies the loss of hope. There’s a hopelessness about him.
He’s given up. He’s given up. There is no point to anything. But through the
movie he does become engaged again. Now the thing about the feet. People sort
of crack jokes about the flip flops and things but it’s actually a real stroke
of genius because there’s a point in the movie later on where suddenly Theo is
becoming active. He’s become engaged again and he’s running around trying to
save this girl which in turn could save the world and Alfonso, who has a huge
sort of aversion to sentimentality, to stop any notion of we’ve seen this
cliché where our guy’s gonna become active and do it, he put me in flip flops. And
that’s never going to become the cliché action guy. It’s like it’s not going to
happen. So that was a very deliberate thing on his part and then the thing just
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